How do you deal with my issue

[Crimson 30]

I know is not age related issue because we share a skype and she is much much older than me I think and this is me...there is more to it like I am good a picking up if a person has literacy issues and I believe this is the problem....Which explains maybe why I try to not push her out because I am bilingual and when I started eons ago to RP I was pushed to the curve when i was learning to write by others and I know how that made me feel. 

On that note I do think we should speak to her and maybe advice of other places she can rp that are not advanced like ours. And yes to other members that have mentioned it to me their writing is very advance which I think is the issue they are having comprehending this person.

[Uaithne 543]

Send her a straightforward and honest (though thoughtful) pm explaining the situation from your point of view about the trouble this member is causing. Explain why the behavior she is showing is troublesome. Offer reasonable solutions to the problems you see. Give her concrete goals and deadlines to meet. Ask for her thoughts and potential solutions, as well as anything on the site that may be troubling her. When you've both had your say and the plan is set, tell her that you guys will have another chat in two weeks.

 

Write all of this down somewhere, including any goals, dates, and concerns you have so that you can keep track. If she fails in a significant manner, well . . . Then you can explore removal from the site.

[Zahhy 130]

Ask yourself one question: is this person breaking any rules or are they just annoying?

 

If they are breaking no rules and are just being petty and difficult, I am of the school-of-thought where you DEAL WITH IT. You're the admin. You have to take the high road.

 

Steps to alleviate this problem:

- Ignore the things that don't qualify as rule breaking. I know this person is frustrating and trying to undermine you, but they obviously have friends in your game and want to play. Let them play.

- Give it some time. See if the person changes.

- If players come to you with complaints about Mouse - keep a log of all complaints. You can tell the players that reach out to you that you are dealing with Mouse as best you can by keeping a log and reviewing their behaviors. Apologize for the fact that it has escalated to the point that it is affecting your players but let them know you're handling it so it doesn't affect the game itself even if it affects the community.

- If Mouse acts out - and you believe sincerely that it is to the detriment of your players and your game, you have the power to contact them Privately and say "Hey. Just wanted to remind you our community policy on XXX" If there is no community policy, just reach out and say "I don't jive with this and I've received some complaints. Is there a way we can open up a conversation?" Give them the opportunity to change.

 

Additional things of note:

- I don't personally see any problem with friends writing profiles. In my games, we all write characters for each other consistently. We call them Adoptables but that basically means we write a profile of a character and one of our friends or a newcomer picks that character up, profile as written and all! If you have no proof of plagiarism, always eer on the side of caution. Do not accuse anyone of plagiarism unless you have proof.

 

- As far as I am concerned writing ability, skill, flavor etc should never be a game requirement. So what if the person can't write the way that you prefer them to? Either they will stick around and learn from everyone and pick up the culture of the game and start mimicking it - or they won't and they'll leave. This is a hobby. A game. As a writing professional it really baffles me that people find other people's writing in a game frustrating. If you can understand it - you probably can play with it. If you can't understand it - perhaps the language they are writing in isn't their first? Maybe they are new to that language and this game is a way for them to practice. I vote; hold your judgment on writing skill (though I loathe to call it that because it is all mostly based off of a preference, not the actual craft) and keep it to yourself if you want your game to be welcoming. If you want to help them hone their profiles - ask them "hey - before I approve this could we go over some of these details so I can better understand x? - Do you mind if I rewrite some of this with what we've discussed?" The more you accommodate the more comfortable this person will feel with you - and they likely won't be offended and ignore you in general chats.

 

TLDR I'm sure I have more advice to give you as a fellow admin, but basically, it all boils down to: Be the bigger person. Be nice. Be thorough. Cover your butts. Follow your own rules. Help. And you can't go wrong!

 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2018 by Zahhy

[Quell 249]

I think Morrigan brings up a good point. If she's getting profiles from a buddy who just wants to be able to write with her, my lawful good heart is ENRAGED, but my logical side says "eh, no harm no foul." 

 

Plagiarism is a whole different pony and is no bueno. 

 

Both of these things said, I think the difference in these scenarios comes down to the standards of the board (having standards doesn't make something elitist, imo; because your standards can be anywhere in the gamut and match your community and players). It is frustrating and unhealthy to try to write with someone who you can not understand and who can not understand you. It's why people who only speak English don't join Russian RP boards -- communication is important OOC and IC and a break down in communication makes a mess in any situation, RP included. 

 

So it sounds like some of the issue with this friend(?) writing the apps is not that they are writing the app but that it is causing a hiccough in the vetting process of the board (which, unless I misread, Crimson referred to as Advanced), which causes stress and confusion on everyone. Definitely don't accuse someone of something willy nilly (just because they did it once doesn't mean they've done it again). But if the writing quality is intolerable for your community, then you need to figure out how to discuss with the player this glaring problem, set out guidelines and expectations. Tend to the problem don't let it fester. ^^

 

I've never RPed with you, Morrigan, but I assume you're coherent.  Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Edited March 14, 2018 by Thyme

[Crimson 30]

It's not advance because I know my capabilities but not others however I understand if someone is writing it for you. However, if the style of your bio does not match your other apps or even your posts it not only confuses other players it sends red flags to others. I think that is the main issues with some of the rpers on my site they don't understand the concept that her bio is well done and her rping doesn't make sense.

[Rune 1,099]

That and bios/apps aren't just there for the character. They're there so the other players know what they're getting in to with the writer behind the character. If I see an app that I don't like, I'm going to assume that I'm not a good fit with that player. (Like being the only word I could think of. Meaning, I can understand it, the character seems well thought out and the writing style is one I enjoy reading... Reading is, after all, a good chunk of what we do.)

 

Dunno, having someone else write your bios for you seems like lying to me. It'd be like sending someone else to an interview. 

[katherineespair 36]

That is an interesting situation.

 

In all honesty I would be firm. Support your own rules, do not stand for tantrums, and let her be.

 

Bad writing tends to quickly chase away rp partners.  People see how someone writes, realizes they can’t work with it, and quickly excuse themselves from the situation. At the end of the day if this person is truly writing badly they will see the consequences. No matter how good their bio is, they will suffer with a lack of partners. No matter how many characters they are, they may not be able to find people to rp with them.

 

One member is not worth misery if all they do is cause drama. Let them have their tantrums, explain that if they continue like this they will be banned, and let them do their thing.  Don’t give them cannons that are important to the site. It might be time to build up a wall and re-establish that you are the admin. 
 

[Morrigan 1,826]

5 hours ago, Thyme said:

I've never RPed with you, Morrigan, but I assume you're coherent.  Correct me if I'm wrong. 

 

Depends on how much I've had to drink lol.